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邯郸洪波台的地点争议

  • 2026-02-04 08:47:35
邯郸洪波台的地点争议
今天,有网友在在邯郸东游西逛的李白一文留言,对洪波台的地点提出争议。这里,把我的观点和理由写下来,供大家辨析。

洪波台最早出现于《史记·赵世家》:“赵武灵王十年,大会群臣于洪波台。”。后来,

西汉韩婴在《韩诗外传》提及“周舍死,简子如丧子。后与诸大夫饮于洪波之台,酒酣,简子涕泣。”这段文字还留下了成语“一狐之腋”以及“众人之唯唯不如一夫之谔谔”。《后汉书·郡国二·赵国》记载“赵国邯郸...有洪波台”,且在其注文中载明“《汲冢书》曰:“邯郸有洪波台””。唐代杜佑在《通典》中记载“邯郸(战国时赵国所都,自敬侯始都之。有丛台、洪波台。亦汉旧县。邯,山名。郸,尽也。汉赵王如意温明殿在此焉。)”。以及李白的《登邯郸洪波台置酒观发兵》。

上面几篇文献中都没有洪波台具体地点的记载。

洪波台在邯郸西北的证据:

1、唐代《元和郡县志》中记载“洪波台,在县西北五里。”;

2、北宋《太平寰宇记》记载“洪波台,在县西三里”。或与北宋和唐代邯郸城的城垣变更有关;

3、隋开皇十八年(598年)的墓志,载明本墓“北距洪波台百步,东距温明殿二里”;

4、唐代《张修义墓志》所记,其墓地“绿水前流,溉濯洪波之殿”。其墓地位于邯郸市西北方向的新生砖厂;

洪波台在邯郸东南的证据:

1、邯郸县志、成安县志的记载;

2、成安县张横城村尚留有遗址,当地村民传说记忆;

笔者较支持成安说,主要理由是:

1、有地点记载的文献最早溯自唐代,据洪波台建成的春秋已过于久远。

2、私人墓志记载不足以为据,其中错误或夸大之处在其它出土墓志中常见。

3、西北说中地点为现梳妆台遗址。其地有多座高台遗迹,考古发现认为这片地方是战国时赵王后宫宫殿遗址。一台两名,不合常理。很可能唐代元和郡县志》将此台误认为洪波台。后世以谬传谬。

4、成安说有遗迹支撑。

5、洪波台筑于春秋赵简子,彼时赵氏向东扩张侵略卫齐,洪波台在东南更合理。

6、成安洪波台遗迹位于赵南长城遗址。这一段赵南长城为依托古漳河北堤所建。台下即古漳河,符合“洪波”台名。而邯郸梳妆台遗址下为当时牛首水,牛首水自台下穿邯郸城池而过,水量肯定不能是“洪波”。

7、李白所登应该是成安洪波台。自曹操凿白渠征乌桓,特别是隋代大运河建成后,邯郸向燕蓟一带运兵,应该是走更便捷的水路。

8、笔者是成安人。

以上理由,笔者有疑点的是,成安当地口音“横、洪”不分。存在后世外来地方官或文人将“横城”误以为“洪城”,再附会成文献记载的洪波台。当地的土台遗址只是单纯的赵南长城遗迹。可能需要考古部门在当地考古提供更多的证据。

不管怎样,笔者认为有争论是好事。希望成安县、丛台区的文旅部门挑起争端,借以扩大知名度。并借李白这首邯郸诗打出地方旅游牌。特别是成安县的文旅部门要努力了,这一遗址完全可以和周边的二祖庙、河北大寨、邯郸战役遗址连片开发。

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  1. CONNECT:[ UseTime:0.000492s ] mysql:host=127.0.0.1;port=3306;dbname=nowww460;charset=utf8mb4
  2. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `fenlei` [ RunTime:0.000810s ]
  3. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `fid` = 0 [ RunTime:0.000316s ]
  4. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `fid` = 63 [ RunTime:0.000281s ]
  5. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `set` [ RunTime:0.000601s ]
  6. SELECT * FROM `set` [ RunTime:0.000199s ]
  7. SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `article` [ RunTime:0.000627s ]
  8. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` = 469860 LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.000437s ]
  9. UPDATE `article` SET `lasttime` = 1770300471 WHERE `id` = 469860 [ RunTime:0.013439s ]
  10. SELECT * FROM `fenlei` WHERE `id` = 64 LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.000491s ]
  11. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 469860 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.000662s ]
  12. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` > 469860 ORDER BY `id` ASC LIMIT 1 [ RunTime:0.007286s ]
  13. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 469860 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 10 [ RunTime:0.002560s ]
  14. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 469860 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 10,10 [ RunTime:0.000677s ]
  15. SELECT * FROM `article` WHERE `id` < 469860 ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 20,10 [ RunTime:0.000765s ]
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